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How One Company Generated $409K in Sales With Honest Content & Video [Endless Customers Podcast Ep. 140]
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00:00:00:00 - 00:00:14:12
Coley McAvoy
If you're willing to make that change. Endless customers for our company here at HomePride in what we've done in Colorado has just changed the entire game for us. And the trajectory that we're on is more than we could have ever expected or imagined.
00:00:14:14 - 00:00:33:09
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00:00:33:12 - 00:00:54:21
Bob Ruffolo
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00:00:54:21 - 00:01:16:03
Alex Winter
Today's episode is about what happens when a company decides to disrupt a traditional industry by answering buyer questions no one else is willing to touch and commit fully to how buyers want to learn. I'm joined by Coley McAvoy. He's the content manager at home. Pride baths. Let's face it, Home Services is a crowded and conservative space, especially when it comes to marketing.
00:01:16:05 - 00:01:41:21
Alex Winter
However, HomePride chooses a different path. They committed to creating disruptive, buyer focused content and went all in on video with roughly 80% of their content built to meet buyers where they are. In this episode, we break down what it looks like to create content no one else in your space is making. How video has changed the buyer experience, and how endless customers has shaped HomePride's approach to content, confidence and growth.
00:01:41:22 - 00:01:44:09
Alex Winter
Coley, welcome to the show.
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Coley McAvoy
Thank you very much, Alex. Pleasure to be here.
00:01:46:05 - 00:02:00:03
Alex Winter
Yeah. Pleasure to have you. This is your first time on the show. I'm so excited that we're talking today. So thank you for taking the time and I think a good place for us to start before we get into the the meat and potatoes of our conversation is to really just set the stage for our viewers and for our listeners.
00:02:00:07 - 00:02:04:17
Alex Winter
Tell people a little bit about yourself and what you do and in the company.
00:02:04:19 - 00:02:30:03
Coley McAvoy
Absolutely. Thank you. So my name is Coley McEvoy. I am the content marketing strategist for HomePride based here in Centennial, Colorado. We are a home bath remodeling and kitchen cabinet restyling company. We are headquartered right outside of Denver in Centennial, Colorado. We are also one of two certified color dealers for the state of Colorado.
00:02:30:04 - 00:02:52:07
Coley McAvoy
So we are a home remodeling that deals primarily in premium products. We do premium rebuilds. As we like to say. Our job here is, is that we do two things. We build beautiful bathrooms and we make them amazingly affordable. So, my job here at home, pride is basically a storyteller. As many content managers I'm sure can relate.
00:02:52:07 - 00:03:21:03
Coley McAvoy
My my job is to bridge the gap between the expertise of my team and their skill set, and what they're capable of doing, and bridging them with customers that are there in Colorado that are in need of a bathroom remodel and looking for a company that they can trust that is qualified to do the work. And, and so my job is like, I said, to bridge that gap and to and to share their stories that help to build that trust and understanding about our craftsmanship and, and how we do our business.
00:03:21:09 - 00:03:37:12
Alex Winter
Excellent, excellent. Thanks for sharing that. Can you tell me a little bit I love Denver, by the way. Before we started the show, I was talking with you about how much I miss Denver. I haven't been there in a while, but, it's it's a great, great city, great vibe. Can you talk a little bit about the space that you're in, the home service industry?
00:03:37:13 - 00:03:56:19
Alex Winter
It's it's very it's very traditional in the way that you like people market it and how it's advertised and it's it's again, I think the right word is very traditional. So how as a content manager, are you finding ways, to market and to speak to people in a different way and to stand out from from the rest, from the noise?
00:03:56:21 - 00:04:19:00
Coley McAvoy
Well, that's a great question, Alex. Thank you for asking that. Just to kind of give a little bit of a background, I believe the last time I checked here in the state of Colorado, we are in a market, which, of course, is home remodeling. The home, construction home remodeling sector, which has about 20,000 different contractors just in the state of Colorado alone.
00:04:19:02 - 00:04:42:15
Coley McAvoy
So you have 20,000 voices? Yeah, that are out there in the marketplace. And unfortunately, as you said, it is a very traditional business where everybody has marketed the same way. When I came into, this industry because of my, my background as a marketer actually was I spent 20 years marketing in the Southern California gaming, sector.
00:04:42:16 - 00:05:06:14
Coley McAvoy
When I came out of gaming and came into home remodeling here in Colorado, one of the things that I noticed was, was that the marketing strategy seemed to be who could shout, we have discounts the loudest. It was it was crazy. Everybody led with the same thing. Everybody was leading with the same stock images. Everybody was leading with the same messaging about, oh, we can offer you $5,000 discount if you sign today.
00:05:06:16 - 00:05:30:18
Coley McAvoy
You name it. And I really saw that there was an opportunity, as well as the, the owner and our visionary leader, Matt Culligan, to really become disruptive and do things in a nontraditional way. I think to crystallize it, it would be that, we realized that the home services companies were marketing and selling in a way that was built around protecting their company.
00:05:30:20 - 00:05:54:14
Coley McAvoy
They were not empowering. They were not empowering buyers. Right. And I think that when we looked at they ask, you answer Marcus Sheridan and endless customers, it kind of gave us a framework to flip that where we stopped hiding behind the cookie cutter templates that everybody else was doing. We started answering questions that buyers really, wanted to know and were already googling, to be quite honest.
00:05:54:15 - 00:06:11:02
Coley McAvoy
And I think that we made the decision to, to separate ourselves by committing to video. And I think it's fundamentally started to change, the conversations that we were having in the marketplace and the impact that we were having in separating ourselves from from those 20,000 voices that I spoke about.
00:06:11:05 - 00:06:30:15
Alex Winter
Yeah, absolutely. You got to find a way to disrupt in a meaningful way and meet buyers where they are and build trust. I love that you said video two and we're going to unpack that. You're talking to a video a video guy here as well. I love all things video and that type of content. Just because you want to talk about building trust, that's one of the fastest and greatest ways to just meet people where they are.
00:06:30:20 - 00:06:48:13
Alex Winter
You don't have to. You don't have to overexplain it. You can just demonstrate and show people what's up. And it just is super effective. And I love I love using that in our toolbox, in the endless customer system here. So just real quick. You had said that you were content managing before, and you're you've come out of a content background in Southern California.
00:06:48:15 - 00:07:01:14
Alex Winter
What was it like learning the endless customer system? Reading? They ask. You answer now endless customers for you on your content journey. And how did that affect how you started to, implement what you're doing now?
00:07:01:16 - 00:07:24:11
Coley McAvoy
Well, I'll tell you what. It's kind of an interesting story. When I was marketing for, a casino in San Diego County. We were facing similar circumstance to what many of the companies and remodeling are facing here. There was a lot of competition, and everybody was saying the same thing. Looses slots, safest slots. Especially after Covid and, you know, everybody was just marketing the same thing.
00:07:24:12 - 00:07:44:08
Coley McAvoy
You're going to win, win, win. And we realized that in order for us to separate ourselves, we wanted to really focus more on being human. And we wanted to explain that we are a casino that can offer you all of the same amenities that the other casinos do. But what makes us different is, what we call we're all about you.
00:07:44:09 - 00:08:05:04
Coley McAvoy
We're we're about the customer experience where we could get to know you. Our foundation was built around, making sure that customers knew if they came to our property that they would be treated like a person and not a number. And we did that through transparency. We did that through openness. We didn't make the same claims that others made.
00:08:05:06 - 00:08:32:10
Coley McAvoy
And so I came into this industry here in Colorado, having already witnessed the transformation that that made where we really found high intent gamblers and customers that really liked our property because they resonated with our messaging. And and so what I liked about endless customers and they ask you answer was the way that Marcus Sheridan, and has been able to really crystallize it in a way that it made sense to me.
00:08:32:10 - 00:08:52:01
Coley McAvoy
And the more they listened to it, I realized, oh, I've been doing some of that already. And yeah, absolutely. It works. I saw it firsthand and how it resulted in millions of dollars in revenue being generated that we didn't have prior. So, I felt that the moment that I read it, the moment that I understood it, it was 100% spot on.
00:08:52:01 - 00:09:09:15
Coley McAvoy
And and I decided that when I got brought on board with HomePride and we decided to adopt the system that we were going to do it 1,000%, we were going to hit every channel, and hit this, this process and the system the way that it was designed. And, and just, you know, see what we could accomplish doing that.
00:09:09:17 - 00:09:25:12
Alex Winter
That's excellent. I love I love hearing that. And I can relate because it was the same for me. I remember the first time reading the book and it wasn't anything groundbreaking, like earth shattering. It just really reinforced a lot of things that I was already feeling, which I it sounds like you were too, that it's like, let's just let's just keep it real.
00:09:25:12 - 00:09:44:01
Alex Winter
Let's put the buyers first. Let's put the people first. Let's be relatable and transparent and not try to be gimmicky and charge key and sell people on all this stuff that basically everyone else is saying, you know, like we're the best adage is, if everyone says you're the best, who is the best? Nobody knows, right? So I hear and I love hearing that.
00:09:44:03 - 00:09:58:23
Alex Winter
So how did that for HomePride? How did that translate into your content? So as a content manager, when it comes to written content, video content, like you were saying especially, how did that affect the content you were making and how you spoke to your buyers for HomePride?
00:09:59:01 - 00:10:28:02
Coley McAvoy
Yeah, sure. So what that translated for us was this is that, as you mentioned earlier, this business is very traditional and part of the tradition that came with this, this business, in this industry is that, many companies are not willing to give out pricing. They're not willing to, put out competitor bids. In fact, many others discourage that type of that activity behavior.
00:10:28:04 - 00:10:51:15
Coley McAvoy
And not wanting to position themselves alongside other companies for fear that they're going to come in at a higher bid. And they were not going to get the business. Traditionally, in this business, we operate off what's called speed to lead. Leads are generated through lead aggregation sources. Third parties. So that would provide HomePride in similar companies like ours with potential leads, people that may or may not be interested in a bathroom remodel.
00:10:51:17 - 00:11:08:11
Coley McAvoy
The key to your success because everybody was doing the same thing. Like you said, everybody seeing the same message is that who could get the fastest? If I'm the first person to get into the phone and talk to that person, I have the better chance of being the one that they book the appointment with. Because as you mentioned, everybody's saying the same thing.
00:11:08:11 - 00:11:09:05
Alex Winter
Yeah, it makes sense.
00:11:09:05 - 00:11:42:10
Coley McAvoy
And and so what what we decided, was that is seeing how that that's how this was, was, was operating and everybody was, was saying the same things. There were a couple of factors, that that helped us kind of change the way that we approach this, both psychological as well as economical. So talking about economics real quick, just to kind of give you a little bit of a background in, in home remodeling, the average cost per lead that we get is about $91.
00:11:42:12 - 00:12:10:09
Coley McAvoy
Now, when you look back at five years ago and you see that the average cost was 40 to $55 a lead, you suddenly seeing how the cost of these leads and the cost of marketing is starting to trend upwards. Yeah. Now, conversely to that, as I'm sure you're already aware, in 2021 when Apple changed their policies with regards to mobile, and we're now giving consumers the option to opt out of data tracking.
00:12:10:11 - 00:12:30:00
Coley McAvoy
This was destructive to these lead generators. And these lead aggregate providers because people were now opting out. So now the quality of leads that they were getting were, were diminishing because they were getting less and less and less data points and information and of course, Google. They also followed suit. 2022. Long story short lead aggregators.
00:12:30:00 - 00:12:54:19
Coley McAvoy
Now we're getting less quality leads. We're spending more to get less. It's costing us more to, to produce less. And that was a trend that was getting very dangerous. And then of course, when you add to that the fact that contractor fraud is, is just such, it's such a pandemic, really, if you think about it. I was doing some research on this prior to the podcast.
00:12:54:21 - 00:13:21:19
Coley McAvoy
The FBI Denver office reported that in 2024 alone, $240 million in revenue cost to consumers from contractor fraud. And that's not to say that all contractors are fraudulent. There's many legitimate contracting businesses like ours that operate off of integrity trust. But unfortunately, there are other bad actors out there that that over promise under deliver.
00:13:21:19 - 00:13:29:14
Coley McAvoy
And and basically people get subpar quality products that over time this industry has developed a very bad reputation. So we.
00:13:29:16 - 00:13:47:09
Alex Winter
Get staggering. Sorry to interrupt, but that you're talking about a quarter of $1 billion of fraudulent transactions happening for for people that are just trying to that are consumers that are just trying to fix their home or do something meaningful to their house. I mean, that's that's staggering. Absolutely. Yeah. It's hard to comprehend. And that's just in the Denver area.
00:13:47:09 - 00:13:52:19
Coley McAvoy
You're saying that was just in Colorado and that was just for 2024. That was just one year.
00:13:52:21 - 00:13:54:18
Alex Winter
So I had no idea. Wow.
00:13:54:20 - 00:14:18:20
Coley McAvoy
Yeah. It's so the the problem there. And you touched upon a great point, Alex. Because if somebody is looking at remodeling their house, more than likely it's out of necessity. When somebody starts to look at a remodel or any sort of investment that's going to cost them 18 to $20,000, there's obviously something very important or something very major happens to make that shift.
00:14:18:22 - 00:14:52:20
Coley McAvoy
Where we did their bathroom spaces become unusable. It's starting to wear down or families have growing and it just can't accommodate them anymore. And then so you're you're in need, of a repair. You're in need of remodel, and you find out that there's so many people out there that are scammers and fraud. So now, like I said, that speed lead was becoming even less productive because you're automatically answering the phone with skepticism, with with fear that this contract is going to try to defraud you so that that traditional system was just, just not working.
00:14:53:01 - 00:15:17:11
Coley McAvoy
And Matt Colligan, our founder and visionary, saw this trend. And he as a contractor, was very committed anyway to transparency, to integrity. He was very heavily involved with the Better Business Bureau out here in Colorado for many years. And he felt that customers deserved trust. They deserved transparency. They deserve to be told the truth and be treated with respect.
00:15:17:16 - 00:15:33:14
Coley McAvoy
Or as he phrased it, living with grace. So, that was one of the many factors, that that led us to partnering with, impact and adopting the endless customers. They ask you an answer system.
00:15:33:16 - 00:15:38:06
Alex Winter
Wow. I, I really love that. Can you say that one more time living with grace? Is that right?
00:15:38:08 - 00:16:02:06
Coley McAvoy
Yes. Yeah. Live with grace. It's, That's our motto. Which which basically just to crystallize it is, is that everybody deserves to be treated with respect, particularly those that are willing to welcome you into their home and trust you with your living space. You should you should understand that that is a calling, that deserves the highest respect, the highest integrity, and the highest in your production and values and how you handle yourself as a business.
00:16:02:06 - 00:16:11:23
Coley McAvoy
So he he was very dedicated to to keeping his company and his name and his reputation, to a high standard of, of of quality and excellence.
00:16:12:01 - 00:16:29:22
Alex Winter
Yeah, it it certainly sounds like he was very much focused on that. And what a great mission statement for the business. That's, that's really refreshing to hear that. And I'm sure for a lot of people out there that need home remodeling done, it's reassuring to hear that as well. So good for you guys for making that claim and staking that very firmly in the ground.
00:16:30:00 - 00:16:44:13
Alex Winter
So I'm curious how does that translate? And I want to get into the video piece now because I love video. I'm going to nerd out with you here a little bit. You've leaned heavily into video and you've been working with impact and with the coaches and trainers here at impact. How has that helped shape your video content?
00:16:44:17 - 00:16:57:16
Alex Winter
I've heard that you've done some pretty epic 80% videos. Can you just talk a little bit about some some of the content you've implemented and how, how and where it's helped shaped, the buyer's journey for you on on your journey with endless customers as well?
00:16:57:18 - 00:17:10:22
Coley McAvoy
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So, video as you mentioned earlier, I mean, video is just powerful. And one of the main reasons for that is simply answered in two words cell phones.
00:17:11:00 - 00:17:11:19
Alex Winter
Yes.
00:17:11:21 - 00:17:45:02
Coley McAvoy
When when when? As a marketer, I was weaned on the mantra that the formula for marketing is this you have to have the right message given to the right customer at the right time, on the right channel. And that channel part is crucial. And we are now in a very unique situation as retailers, as as businesses where there's five generations of buyers that are currently out in the marketplace and each one of them has their own preference of where they go for information, what they what they search for, what they look at and for out of those used their cell phones to do that.
00:17:45:04 - 00:18:06:17
Coley McAvoy
So you can imagine now how important video becomes, because if you're on this device and you're looking at it, we know that through data that people are more likely to watch a video than re content. In fact, I think what I read was video, performs written content by 1,200%. So video is what people want to see.
00:18:06:17 - 00:18:25:14
Coley McAvoy
And what makes it powerful is, is that people can visualize and see what they're actually wanting. When you're thinking about a bathroom remodel, for instance, and you're looking at your old bathroom and then you see somebody else in a video where you see an old bathroom instantly transformed before your eyes into a new color system tub, the shower, whatever it may be.
00:18:25:16 - 00:18:53:12
Coley McAvoy
It's a powerful story. Visually. You're seeing it. You can now start to envision that happening in your own personal space. So, so realizing the potential that video had, we decided that we were going to go all in, when I came aboard the company as a content manager, we hired an in-house, videographer. We were very, very fortunate to get a gentleman by the name of Julio, who is actually an Emmy Award winning videographer who worked for PBS for many years.
00:18:53:14 - 00:19:20:18
Coley McAvoy
So he. Yeah, yeah, he, he brings with him such an expertise and understanding of, of the human interest story, which really is, is, is what we wanted to focus on in our content. Real human interest, real Colorado homeowners, real bathrooms, real transformations, not flashy, glitzy models sitting in AI generated spaces that were airbrushed by Photoshop. Well, we wanted to show real homeowners, real customers who had real needs.
00:19:20:20 - 00:19:39:15
Coley McAvoy
That that chose to go with HomePride. So we brought him on board, and then we just decided we were going to follow the endless customer system and the they ask you answer system, because we felt that that playbook was already proven. We we believe that what Marcus Sheridan shared was true. And as you know, 80% video was a big part of that.
00:19:39:17 - 00:20:06:14
Coley McAvoy
So so we sat down and the more that we worked on this video, we scripted it. We actually had our founder, Matt, in the video, he's the one that's talking, which which I love because of that, such a level of accountability that this is the owner, the CEO of the company who is sharing these words to customers through this video, talking openly about our costs, talking openly about our timelines, talking about the fact that we are not the cheapest option.
00:20:06:19 - 00:20:35:14
Coley McAvoy
In fact, many times we are upfront, the most costly option because we deal in a premium product. But then we also deliver the best long term value, which I can talk about later if we need to, if we can. But when, when you see him talking about actual costs, timelines, setting those expectations realistically, it made a huge impact to buyers because you're automatically building that trust without even having stepped foot in their door.
00:20:35:16 - 00:21:02:06
Coley McAvoy
You know, people people are getting to know you, through video, through through phones, through research. Before you ever have an opportunity to ever introduce yourself, speak to them 1 to 1, if that ever happens. That first impression is now being built. You know, in that open atmosphere, of of cellular technology and video screens. So, video for us was was such a no brainer, really.
00:21:02:08 - 00:21:26:06
Coley McAvoy
And so we developed our 80% video and we started sending that out to customers, after we spoke with them on the phone, has set an appointment so they knew what to expect when our design team arrived. In some cases, that was met with some hesitancy by our design team. They're like, if you tell them that I'm just going to cost $18,000 before we ever get in the door, they're not going to buy from a second ago with someone cheaper.
00:21:26:08 - 00:21:42:17
Coley McAvoy
And the truth is that in some cases, yes, they are absolutely right. And they will. But that's okay because better to have them do it now than you to drive two hours out to their home. Since we service all of Colorado and find out there. Oh, by the way, we're $18,000. Well, that's way out of our price Lake.
00:21:42:17 - 00:22:01:21
Coley McAvoy
Sorry. You know, all that time was wasted, all that energy was wasted. The trust was compromised because now you just wasted homeowners precious time where they had to sit through a 90 minute demonstration to find out this is not going to work for them. So, yeah. So video has been huge for us and we have doubled down on it through before and after transformation.
00:22:01:21 - 00:22:28:04
Coley McAvoy
Videos are 80% video testimonials, which have been so powerful, from real customers, that it's just if you're not using video, you're, you're just obviously you're missing out on the most powerful opportunity you have to market any business. People will resonate with what they can see and see and verify for themselves more than they ever will.
00:22:28:10 - 00:22:31:03
Coley McAvoy
Anything that you might write.
00:22:31:05 - 00:22:48:02
Alex Winter
Truer words have never been spoken. I could not agree with you more. And you know what you're saying to when it comes to assignment selling, which is a very big part of the endless customer system. Video is one of the best ways to do that, and there's nothing better than already having somebody feel like they know you before you've even spoken to them, before you've ever even met them.
00:22:48:02 - 00:23:02:16
Alex Winter
They're already like, oh, hey, I saw you in that video. It's so nice to meet you. Like it already starts to build trust and bridge these gaps. That would take a lot more time to do. And I think something important that you said too, I can understand the sales team or some of the people being like, what if they can't afford it?
00:23:02:16 - 00:23:18:12
Alex Winter
And why are we saying this? And but you're right, you want to be respectful not just of your time, but of the buyer's time too. And it's better to just hash it out and get it out right up front. And now and just be respectful of that, that space versus driving two hours somewhere and then finding out after the fact and wasting everybody's time.
00:23:18:12 - 00:23:34:08
Alex Winter
So I, I think that's a very valuable lesson that, you know, sometimes quantity over quality, that's the that's the conversation that, that people have. It's like, do you do you really want a bunch of leads that might not be qualified, or would you rather have less leads that are well qualified and know exactly what they want from you?
00:23:34:08 - 00:23:51:11
Alex Winter
And you can have a very a very, quick, quick way to close and move forward with generating great business. So I, I love hearing all that. How does how does that play into and this is, this is going to segue into my next question. How does that play into your sales pipeline and revenue in general for your company?
00:23:51:11 - 00:24:02:23
Alex Winter
So after implementing this and starting to leverage video content and written content, what have you seen, as far as growth or as far as like some results and numbers that maybe you could share with us?
00:24:03:01 - 00:24:13:16
Coley McAvoy
Yeah, absolutely. So if you give me just a moment, I'm going to go ahead and, I'm going to share my screen with you, and, I will share some actual data,
00:24:13:18 - 00:24:15:20
Alex Winter
A little show and tell. I love it.
00:24:15:22 - 00:24:38:06
Coley McAvoy
Yeah. And, I'll go ahead. And obviously, for those that are listening to this podcast, we will explain it as well. So you know exactly what it is that we're sharing here. So, we launched our website through, impact and working with the Impact team. September 3rd, 2025. So we have been active with our website, about five months.
00:24:38:06 - 00:25:02:00
Coley McAvoy
Yeah. So we've been the last five months is where we've put in the videos, the 80%, the 1 to 1 videos, the whole inbound marketing system as designed, by endless customers. So what I've put together after running some analytics, I did some research on ChatGPT, because I wanted to find out if there was any benchmark information for companies like mine.
00:25:02:02 - 00:25:23:14
Coley McAvoy
So to preface all the data, I'll share, let me say that what I used as a benchmark was small companies like ours, where we only have the one office, that are in the home remodeling sector here in Colorado, that offer high ticket revenue or high ticket purchase items, in this case bathroom remodels, which average about $20,000 a ticket.
00:25:23:16 - 00:25:48:04
Coley McAvoy
Okay, so so that's what I used as the baseline. So looking at our performance through inbound marketing. So, right here just to kind of throw some, some quick numbers, you'll see that since we launched our website in September, between September of February, we've seen a 163% in our organic traffic growth. And that's all just through our written and video content.
00:25:48:06 - 00:26:11:21
Coley McAvoy
We have a current website conversion rate. And by that, I mean visits to our website and then people who then fill out the form for us to contact them. That's our lead generation conversion. We're at a 10.9% conversion rate with air. And, since September, we've already been able to generate over $409,000 in revenue just from our content.
00:26:11:23 - 00:26:16:13
Coley McAvoy
And, through implementing the, endless customer strategy. Wow.
00:26:16:15 - 00:26:28:21
Alex Winter
Wow. That's incredible. Congratulations, I thank you. I love seeing that. And I love hearing that. That's if that's not inspiring or motivating I don't know I don't know what is. That's just great to see. Congrats. Yeah.
00:26:28:23 - 00:27:04:03
Coley McAvoy
Thank you. Thank you very much. So yeah. So here it's looking at this chart. You can see, when we started in September, organic traffic was about 600, sessions. We peaked in January, to almost, well, 20, 129 sessions in January. So just in that short, rapid span, the our content, the keyword usage, our SEO, ROI strategies that we were implementing was help with the, the enlist customers team and our own work.
00:27:04:03 - 00:27:28:04
Coley McAvoy
Like I said, we saw our organic traffic grow more than double, and it's more than double the industry growth benchmark of 20 to 40%, which is is what most companies like ours are doing right now. So think about that. Most companies are doing 20 to 40% through their website doing traditional AI photos. You know, the models, the what have you.
00:27:28:06 - 00:27:28:21
Alex Winter
Right.
00:27:28:23 - 00:27:55:16
Coley McAvoy
By going genuine, by going organic, by humanizing our content, by adding in real customer testimonies, pictures and videos and content that's educational. We have grown 153%, in that same span. So. Wow. Our website conversion, just to kind of give you, again, an understanding against benchmark performance. We had 477 form views since September with the launch of our website.
00:27:55:18 - 00:28:18:11
Coley McAvoy
It's sure that we got 52 qualified submissions. We are seeing, like I said, that's at a 10.9% conversion rate versus the industry benchmark, which is 2 to 5%. So again, we are we are performing more than double, in our conversions, with what many other companies like ours are seeing through their website, for inbound revenue contributions.
00:28:18:11 - 00:28:42:19
Coley McAvoy
Again, 15 projects have generated $409,000 in revenue. And again, this is all coming through just organic traffic, videos that we were able to link to our website from YouTube, our social media channels, our blog articles, which we're getting about, anywhere between 1800 to 2000 wreaths a month. It's it's just the results speak for themselves.
00:28:42:19 - 00:29:02:22
Coley McAvoy
Really. And like I said, as you can see in many key areas, we are just outperforming industry benchmarks. And we're just, you know, the really exciting thing about this is that we've just started, you know, and obviously, there's so much room to grow. There's so much room to scale with this, that it's it's very exciting.
00:29:02:23 - 00:29:29:16
Coley McAvoy
What I'd really like to talk. So I think, where I think it really resonates now is if we look at our sales funnel and the performance, metrics, there. So again, looking at our current, funnel, we are from contact. So from the percentage of people that are seeing our video filling out a form and we call them and are actually booking in appointments with us, we're seeing 83% of those viewers do that.
00:29:29:18 - 00:29:55:13
Coley McAvoy
Where the industry benchmarks anywhere between 55 to 70%. So people now who are getting content up front are doing their own research, who are more educated and more informed about us, who are then filling out that form saying, yeah, contact us. 83% of them are resulting in us having appointments with them in their homes, sharing and talking about, our products.
00:29:55:15 - 00:30:17:02
Coley McAvoy
So we have a 95% appointment show rate. So what this means is, is that when we book an appointment, they keep it. They're not canceling. They that means that signals to me high intent buyers. Right? This is someone who's serious about purchasing. They're already aware of the the cost expectations behind this through the content we've provided to them.
00:30:17:02 - 00:30:44:10
Coley McAvoy
We've made it very clear, you know, the, the 10 to 12 week wait times, in some cases for products to be manufactured and still maintaining a 95% show rate, which is above the industry standard of 75 to 85. And then really what's exciting is, is that, we have a 100% demo to sell, right? So when we've actually demoed, for these homeowners, in this case, there were 15 of them where we came in and we demoed we we gave them our product.
00:30:44:10 - 00:30:53:16
Coley McAvoy
We showed them they could touch and feel it for themselves. We had 100% demo to sell close rate, which obviously is just 100%.
00:30:53:18 - 00:31:03:06
Alex Winter
I have to interrupt and just say like, is everyone seeing this correctly? 100% close, right? That is demo two sale close. That's. Yeah, that's, that's unheard of.
00:31:03:06 - 00:31:30:19
Coley McAvoy
That's incredible. One of our testimonials, is from a woman named Carol and, Pueblo, Colorado, whose job is to protect people from contractor fraud. That is that is her business. She she educates people on what to look for, how to protect themselves against contractor fraud, and then how what, you know, and remediation following it. She chose HomePride because of the fact that we were the most transparent.
00:31:30:21 - 00:32:11:07
Coley McAvoy
We we offered information upfront. Not only that, but we also gave her easy access to explore our BVB reviews, our our Google reviews, which were at 4.5 stars. So she could see not only the positives, but the negatives and how we responded to the negatives. All of it. It helped her make that decision that I'm willing to go with HomePride versus the other remodelers that, that had contacted her to have that kind of, advocacy where someone whose job as a contractor fraud specialist is to protect people from it and tell them, listen, this is the company that I chose because they do it the right way.
00:32:11:09 - 00:32:44:07
Coley McAvoy
Was just so encouraging. And again, that was all through the video content and the materials and the pieces that we published, that let her make an informed decision before we ever walked in the door, you know, then obviously having our designers show up, Stacy, in this case, and he tells a story over again that how that video and her advocacy has then later secured at least four jobs that I know where they shared that video with homeowners and their homes and watching this lady speak and they said, you know what?
00:32:44:07 - 00:33:08:16
Coley McAvoy
Let's do this. Let's make this decision here and now. That video, that testimonial gave them the added confidence to to make an investment in some cases, which was 18, 24, $25,000. So, yeah, I think again, it just really speaks to the power that that content really can have, on your business and for your business, particularly with it being completely organic.
00:33:08:16 - 00:33:13:10
Coley McAvoy
This was something that she agreed to do with her own time, of her own volition. All we had to do was provide a camera.
00:33:13:10 - 00:33:33:02
Alex Winter
So, yeah. Wow. That's thank you so much for sharing that. I'm so inspired right now. And if if people out there watching, listening, if you're not seeing those numbers and hearing those numbers and hearing these stories, it really works. And it's so powerful. What can happen if you do this the right way, and you guys clearly are doing it the right way and building so much trust.
00:33:33:02 - 00:33:50:14
Alex Winter
And I couldn't be happier for you guys. So I'm curious, what's it like working with an endless customers coach? What's it like having impact coaching training you on this? And how is that helping you? You know, it's you said you've been doing this for a short while and you're already having these epic results. Where is this going to take you into the future?
00:33:50:14 - 00:33:53:21
Alex Winter
And why do you see the value in the coaching from from impact?
00:33:53:23 - 00:34:22:20
Coley McAvoy
Sure. So let me let me approach the first part of the question, and then I'll go on to the second part. So, what it's been like for us, to have endless, customer coaches, has been really nothing short of just it's been an incredible experience. And I say that because of the fact that when you enter into the system and if you're operating in the traditional way, you're already coming in with hesitancy, you're already coming in like, is this really going to work?
00:34:22:20 - 00:34:41:16
Coley McAvoy
You don't know, it might not work for us, you know? But but in our case, what we got with the endless customers coaching was not just their expertise, but what I really appreciated was the accountability. I'm going to I'm going to call out, the gentleman that I work with very closely as a content manager, John Becker.
00:34:41:18 - 00:35:05:06
Coley McAvoy
And John is my content coach. And has been since I joined the team, last April. And what I love about John is, is that John holds me accountable. And when I say accountable, I mean this. I, I write a blog article and and sometimes as a writer, when you've been writing for two plus hours, you may take some assumptions that, you know, you've made points or or you quite frankly, just want to be done writing.
00:35:05:08 - 00:35:25:17
Coley McAvoy
So I, you know, you may glance over something and John would read my articles and come back to, hey, Colie, listen, this section here, I think, I think it could be fleshed out more. I think that you're just skimming over it. I think there's a lot to unpack here that would really be a value to the customer, and that's the accountability that I appreciate it because I needed to be brought back to.
00:35:25:17 - 00:35:54:14
Coley McAvoy
That's right. This is through the customer's perspective. I'm writing this for the sake of the customer lens, and having a coach that is outside of me, outside of my head, to give me the accountability was great. And designing the website, we work with Mary Brown, and Mary was a fantastic coach. She and I, we developed our website in six weeks, and I say six weeks from the start of the framework that was provided to us, through HubSpot.
00:35:54:15 - 00:36:18:09
Coley McAvoy
We went with, one of the, with the, the trust module through HubSpot. Yeah. So between. Yeah, yeah, between the framework, and the, the framing of it, the to writing it and then producing all the content and sigma to then taking that content and segment once it was looked over by her and her team and then published out live on web pages for six weeks.
00:36:18:11 - 00:36:46:21
Coley McAvoy
I have developed three websites over the course of my career. And each one, on average, I would say, was a project that took 6 to 8 months, before we completed it, to have produced a high powered website that is operating the way that it is now, with some minor tweaks for sure. But to have done that in six weeks, that was a really testament to Mary being available all the time to answer questions, to walk me through some of the modules I didn't understand.
00:36:46:23 - 00:37:23:20
Coley McAvoy
And again, to give me that extra eye and the quality of the content that we were producing, giving her insights. I would tweak this, I changed that, it was invaluable, to me and producing the website. And then last but not least, we've also worked very closely with Venkata, who is, our, our lead consultant with the assignment selling piece and the way that he has helped our team understand the process, understand its value, giving us practical tips and guidelines on how to, better incorporate it with our sales team, how to get our sales team more bought in and more involved and more invested in this process.
00:37:23:22 - 00:37:46:09
Coley McAvoy
Has has also been invaluable. So I would say that having a coach, there's no way that we would have the success that we've seen were it not for the influence that they've provided us on all those levels. So that being said, I think that, they also really helped us to realize is, is that organic strategy, in my opinion, is change.
00:37:46:09 - 00:38:04:23
Coley McAvoy
It's not about maximizing volume anymore. I think it's maximizing your buyer intent and your revenue efficiencies. You know, and by that, let me let me unpack that a little bit. What this means is, is, like you said, it's no longer like, oh, you know, we've got to, you know, the more the better. We just got to put quantity out there.
00:38:04:23 - 00:38:27:08
Coley McAvoy
Quantity, quantity, quantity. Right. No, it's about the quality of each piece that you produce. I think that that in today's day and age, when homeowners now have access to a cell phone or doing their own research, they can get access to information. And now with AI, it's become even easier to get the information that you need without having to go to a single person.
00:38:27:10 - 00:38:51:10
Coley McAvoy
You know, no longer are the gatekeepers in charge. There's no such thing as gatekeeping anymore. Having the endless customers, team, there to help us really understand that that that concept that it's no longer about volume, it's about quality. It's about the quality of of, educating our buyers to make sure that by the time they're reaching you, the intent is there.
00:38:51:12 - 00:39:06:19
Coley McAvoy
The expectation has been set. The trust has already been built through your videos. That has been also, just, huge part of the success that we have seen in the five short months that we've been running this.
00:39:06:21 - 00:39:25:16
Alex Winter
Wow. It's five months and you've already accomplished so much. And I do have to say, I've been through my fair share of website rebuilds or migrations, or starting from scratch in six weeks is very accelerated. And for it to still be working and be that effective. I love hearing that. I love hearing your experience with all your coaches.
00:39:25:16 - 00:39:48:01
Alex Winter
That's just wonderful. And listen, the website is a living, breathing thing. You never just set it and forget it. That's the wrong way to look at it or approach it. So you're always tweaking and iterating. But regardless, that's just amazing. Amazing stuff to hear. Yeah. So my last question for you, for people out there that don't know about endless customers, what would you what would you say to them, if they were asking you about it like this?
00:39:48:01 - 00:39:53:18
Alex Winter
This seems to be working so well for you. Where should I start? What should I do? What would you recommend? What would you say back to them?
00:39:53:20 - 00:40:16:01
Coley McAvoy
Sure. Well, I think I would. I would first lead with this. Is that, if you don't like the results that you're getting and you want to get differentiated results, then you have to take differentiated actions, right? It's like it's like a recipe, right? If you put in chocolate into your cake mix, you're going to get chocolate cake.
00:40:16:01 - 00:40:47:22
Coley McAvoy
There's no way you're going to get a vanilla cake. And so to, to kind of hone in on, on what I would tell customers that are considering endless customer success is that, I know it's going to feel scary. There's going to be some hesitancy because transparency feels risky. But we're seeing it that that when you, you incorporate it in the right way to the right channels, you know it, you're going to just get the results that, that you're looking for.
00:40:48:00 - 00:41:13:01
Coley McAvoy
You're going to get that that better, higher acquisition rate with lesser cost. You're going to see an improvement. You organic like we have. There is no magic sauce. There's no magic formula that we have done to to achieve the growth that we have. It has been following the this guideline, that endless customers has provided. They have the support, they have the framework, you know, and you just have to you have to commit 100%.
00:41:13:03 - 00:41:42:10
Coley McAvoy
And I think that would be the biggest thing, especially to content managers out there. If you're going to do this, commit 100% to it. Don't don't just do some of it and skip over some of the others. It's a living, breathing ecosystem that you're developing and designing. Particularly an inbound marketing, an organic, whether it be your website, through your social media channels, through your video, through your YouTube channel, through your blogs, whatever the case may be, in order for it to succeed, you have to give it your full commitment.
00:41:42:10 - 00:42:13:03
Coley McAvoy
But I promise you, I promise you that what you put in, you're going to get back out in huge dividends. You know, and it's about not not having to be the flashiest. It's about being the most honest. It's about being trusting. So the real question, you know, that I would ask people out there is that if you're unhappy with, with what you're seeing and what you're doing now, if you're willing to make that change, enlist customers for our company here at home.
00:42:13:03 - 00:42:31:01
Coley McAvoy
Pride in what we've done in Colorado, has just changed the entire game for us. And the trajectory that we're on is, is more than we could have ever expected or imagined. And we're just super excited. So, yeah, I would say make the decision to go full hog and and congratulations.
00:42:31:03 - 00:42:49:06
Alex Winter
Yes, I love that. Well, congratulations to you and the entire HomePride team. Calling you. You just have such an infectious, energetic, it just like it exudes out of you, man. I feel so inspired. And I hope that our viewers and our listeners are as inspired as I am, because this has just been a super motivating conversation.
00:42:49:06 - 00:42:53:16
Alex Winter
So thank you for your time, and thank you for sharing the HomePride story with us.
00:42:53:18 - 00:42:56:09
Coley McAvoy
Thank you, Alex, for your time today. Greatly appreciate it.
00:42:56:11 - 00:43:06:15
Alex Winter
Absolutely. We're going to have to have you back on the show in the near future. I want to hear how the next five months shape up and all the success and where it takes you into the into the future here. It's going to be epic.
00:43:06:17 - 00:43:07:09
Coley McAvoy
Sounds great.
00:43:07:13 - 00:43:15:03
Alex Winter
All right. Sounds great. And for everybody out there watching and listening, thank you for tuning in. I'm your host, Alex Winter. This is Endless Customers. We'll catch you on the next episode.
Businesses in crowded markets do not usually struggle because they have nothing to say. They struggle because everyone around them is saying the same thing.
Every company says it cares. Every company says it does great work. Every company says it has the best team, the best service, and the best deal. After a while, it all blends together. More noise. Less trust.
That is one reason this conversation with Coley McAvoy from HomePride Bath stood out to me.
In this episode of the Endless Customers podcast, Coley shared what happened when HomePride Bath chose a different path. Instead of hiding behind safe, generic marketing, they started answering the questions buyers were already asking. They leaned into video. They got honest about pricing, timelines, and expectations. Then they let that honesty build trust before the sales conversation even began.
That is what this episode is really about. It is about what can happen when a company stops trying to sound polished and starts trying to be helpful.
You'll walk away with a clear understanding of how honest content builds trust, why video helps buyers make decisions faster, and what changes when a business fully commits to teaching instead of pitching.
What makes marketing in home services so hard?
Coley works for HomePride Bath in Centennial, Colorado, a company focused on bath remodeling and kitchen cabinet restyling. They sell premium remodels. As Coley put it, “We build beautiful bathrooms, and we make them amazingly affordable.”
His role is to tell the company’s story in a way that helps buyers feel informed and safe. I appreciated the way he described his work. He said his job is “to bridge the gap between the expertise of my team and their skill set, and what they’re capable of doing, and bridging them with customers.”
That is a great description of what content should do. Content is not filler. It is not decoration. It is a bridge.
Home services, especially remodeling, can be a hard space to market in. Coley pointed out that in Colorado alone, around 20,000 contractors are competing for attention. That means buyers are surrounded by a sea of similar promises, similar discounts, and similar stock photos of smiling couples looking at kitchens they probably do not own.
Coley said when he entered the industry, it felt like everyone was trying to answer one question: who can shout about discounts the loudest?
That line made me laugh because it is painfully accurate in a lot of industries.
The bigger issue is this. When everybody leads with the same offer, the buyer has no real reason to trust anyone. One discount looks a lot like the next. One “free consultation” sounds exactly like the other twelve.
HomePride Bath decided to take a different route.
What changed when HomePride Bath stopped copying the market?
One of the biggest ideas in this episode was the shift from protecting the company to helping the buyer.
Coley said, “We realized that the home services companies were marketing and selling in a way that was built around protecting their company. They were not empowering buyers.”
That is the kind of sentence that stops you for a second.
A lot of businesses do this without meaning to. They hold back pricing because they are afraid of losing the sale. They avoid comparisons because they do not want buyers to look elsewhere. They stay vague because vague feels safer.
The problem is that vagueness does not build trust.
HomePride Bath found a framework through They Ask, You Answer and Endless Customers that helped them flip that model. Instead of hiding behind polished marketing templates, they started answering the questions buyers were already searching for online.
That matters because people are not looking for more clever marketing. They are looking for clarity. They want to know what it costs, what could go wrong, how long it will take, what makes one option better than another, and whether they can trust the company they invite into their home.
In this episode, I could feel how personal that mission was for Coley and the team. This was not just about better leads. It was about giving people confidence in a category where confidence is often low.
Why are buyers in this industry so skeptical?
This was one of the most eye-opening parts of the episode because it explained why trust matters so much in home services.
Coley shared that contractor fraud is a real and serious problem in Colorado. He cited research showing that the FBI Denver office reported $243M of fraud in 2024, including millions of dollars lost to contractor fraud. These are commonly regular homeowners who get left carrying massive bills, unfinished projects, and serious risks.
It also explains a lot.
Most homeowners do not start looking for a bathroom remodel because they woke up one morning wanting a fun new project. Usually, something is no longer working. The bathroom is worn out. The layout no longer fits the family. A shower has become hard to use. A space that once worked fine has slowly turned into a daily frustration. By the time many people start searching, they are already carrying stress, cost concerns, and now, a sense of urgency.
Now add one more layer to that. They are stepping into a market where they are not always sure who to trust.
That changes everything.
It changes how they search. It changes how they compare companies. It changes how they answer the phone. As Coley said, many buyers come into these conversations “with skepticism, with fear.”
That line really stayed with me because it gets to the emotional reality of the buyer. This is not just a sales process. For many homeowners, it feels like a risk assessment. They are trying to make a smart decision while also trying not to get burned.
In that kind of environment, speed alone is not enough. Being the first company to call back does not automatically win trust. It just makes you the first voice in a conversation that the buyer may already feel nervous about.
HomePride Bath’s founder, Matt Colligan, recognized that. According to Coley, Matt believed customers “deserved trust. They deserved transparency. They deserve to be told the truth and be treated with respect.”
That mindset shaped the way HomePride Bath chose to market and sell.
The phrase they use internally is “live with grace.”
I loved that.
It does not sound like a line created to look good on a website. It sounds like a standard the company is trying to live up to. A reminder that when someone invites you into their home, you are not just selling a product. You are being trusted with a very personal part of their life.
That is what made this section of the episode so strong to me. It showed that HomePride Bath was not just trying to find a better way to market. They were responding to a real trust problem in their industry and choosing to meet it with honesty.
What kind of content actually builds trust?
The answer, in HomePride Bath’s case, was content that many competitors were unwilling to make.
They talked openly about pricing. They addressed timelines. They created comparison-style content. They used real stories. They showed real homes and real homeowners.
And they went big on video.
Coley said, “Video is just powerful.” Then he gave the two-word reason why: “cell phones.”
It's that simple, and it is true.
People live on their phones. They research there. They compare there. They scroll there while standing in line, waiting in the car, or sitting in bed, wondering if this bathroom project is finally the year’s next expensive surprise.
Video meets people where they already are.
Coley also made a point I deeply agree with. Buyers can picture themselves in a story much faster through video than through plain text alone. When someone sees a tired bathroom turn into a finished space, it does more than explain. It helps them feel possibility.
That matters.
HomePride Bath hired an in-house videographer with a background in human interest storytelling. They focused on what Coley called “real Colorado homeowners, real bathrooms, real transformations.” No fake-looking models. No polished fantasy land. Just the truth, shown clearly.
That kind of content works because it feels real. And buyers are hungry for real.
What happens when you tell buyers the price before the sales call?
This was one of the most important parts of the episode because it gets to the center of what trust actually looks like in sales.
HomePride Bath created an 80% video featuring their founder, Matt, speaking directly to buyers before the appointment ever happens. In that video, he talks openly about cost, timelines, and expectations. He does not dance around the hard parts. He says clearly that HomePride Bath is not the cheapest option. As Coley put it, sometimes they are “the most costly option because we deal in a premium product.”
Most companies in home services would never say that upfront.
HomePride Bath did. And that honesty made the sales process stronger.
What I appreciated in this part of the conversation is that Coley did not pretend that transparency comes without risk. Some people on the design team worried that talking about price too early would scare buyers away. In some cases, it did. Some people took themselves out of the process before the appointment.
That is not bad news. That is the system doing its job.
It is far better for a buyer to realize early that a company is outside their budget than to sit through a long appointment, get emotionally invested, and only then find out the numbers do not work. It also saves the team from chasing appointments that were never likely to turn into the right fit.
That is what honest selling does. It clears away false starts. It protects the buyer’s time. It protects the company’s time. And it makes the conversations that do happen much more productive.
By the time HomePride Bath shows up at the house, the buyer already has a better sense of what this project costs, what kind of company they are dealing with, and whether it makes sense to keep going. That means less friction, fewer surprises, and more trust from the very beginning.
To me, this was one of the biggest takeaways from the whole episode. Telling the truth early does not weaken the sales process. It improves it.
What results did HomePride Bath actually see?
The numbers Coley shared were impressive on their own, but what made them even more striking was the timeline. HomePride Bath had only been running with its new website, video content, and inbound approach for about five months.
That is not a long runway.
And yet, in that short stretch, the results were hard to ignore.
Coley shared that HomePride Bath saw 163 percent organic traffic growth between September and February. Their website reached a 10.9 percent conversion rate, which he noted was well above the industry benchmark of 2 to 5 percent. They also generated more than $409,000 in revenue from content-driven efforts during that period.
Those are strong numbers. But what really caught my attention was what happened deeper in the funnel.
According to Coley, HomePride Bath saw an 83 percent contact to appointment rate and a 95 percent appointment show rate. That alone says a lot. Buyers were not just browsing. They were following through. They were showing up informed, engaged, and ready to have a real conversation.
Then came the stat that made me pause.
HomePride Bath reported a 100 percent demo-to-sale close rate across the 15 projects they measured.
That is the kind of number that makes you lean in.
It also did not sound random or lucky. It sounded like the result of a better buyer journey. These homeowners were not entering the sales conversation cold. By the time the appointment happened, they had already watched the videos. They had already learned about pricing. They had already seen real customer stories and had a much better sense of what HomePride Bath stood for.
In other words, they were not starting from zero.
That is what happens when Assignment Selling is working the way it should. The sales conversation becomes less about catching the buyer up and more about helping them move forward with confidence.
To me, that was one of the clearest proof points in the whole episode. Good content does not just bring in traffic. It helps create better prepared buyers, stronger sales conversations, and better fit opportunities from the start.
Why do testimonials matter so much in a trust-based sale?
One story from Coley really stayed with me because it captured the whole trust issue in a very real way.
He talked about a HomePride Bath customer named Carol, whose job is to help protect people from contractor fraud. Think about that for a second. This is someone who knows what the warning signs look like. She knows how people get misled. She knows what happens when a contractor says one thing and delivers another. Out of all the companies she could have chosen, she chose HomePride Bath.
Why?
Because they were transparent.
Coley explained that HomePride Bath made it easy for Carol to do her homework. She could see the company’s Better Business Bureau reviews, their Google reviews, and not just the glowing ones. She could also see the negative reviews and how the company responded to them. That level of openness gave her something most buyers are looking for in this industry but do not often get. It gave her confidence.
That story says a lot because Carol is not just any happy customer. She is someone whose work is built around helping people avoid bad actors. When a person like that chooses your company, it carries weight. Buyers pay attention because it tells them this trust was not manufactured. It was earned.
What made the story even stronger is that it did not stop there. Coley shared that Carol’s testimonial video later helped HomePride Bath close more business because other homeowners saw themselves in her story. They watched someone with real knowledge, real caution, and real standards explain why she felt comfortable moving forward. That gave them more confidence to do the same.
That is why strong testimonials matter so much in a trust-based sale. They do more than praise your company. They remove doubt. They answer the quiet question sitting in the back of every buyer’s mind. Can I really trust these people?
What role did coaching play in all of this?
I asked Coley what it had been like working with the IMPACT team, and his answer was thoughtful.
He talked about accountability.
That stood out to me because good coaching is not just advice. It is an outside voice that helps you sharpen your work, stay focused, and see what you miss when you are too close to the page.
Coley praised the way his coaches pushed him to think more deeply from the customer’s point of view. He described feedback on blog content where sections needed more depth and where the reader needed more clarity.
That kind of push matters.
He also shared that HomePride Bath built and launched a working website in six weeks, which is fast by almost any standard. If you have ever been part of a website rebuild, you know six weeks can feel like six minutes.
What I liked most was the way Coley described the shift in mindset. He said, “It’s no longer about volume, it’s about quality.” That is a lesson a lot of businesses still need to hear.
You do not need more noise. You need better teaching.
How should a business get started with this?
Coley closed the episode with a point that I think a lot of business owners need to hear. He said, “If you don’t like the results that you’re getting and you want to get differentiated results, then you have to take differentiated actions.”
That is really the heart of it.
A crowded market does not reward businesses for sounding like everyone else. It rewards those who are willing to be clearer, more honest, and more useful.
So where do you start?
Talk about cost.
Talk about problems.
Talk about timelines.
Talk about what makes one option different from another.
Show your work with video. Put real people on camera. Let buyers hear from your team, your customers, and your leadership. Give them something more helpful than polished claims and generic promises.
That is what HomePride Bath did.
They did not win trust by trying to look perfect. They won trust by being open. They told buyers what to expect. They made the process easier to understand. They helped people feel more informed before the sales conversation ever started.
That is why this episode stood out to me. Coley did not describe a shortcut. He described a commitment. He described the kind of steady, honest work that many companies know they should be doing, but still hesitate to fully embrace. That is also why it worked. Buyers can feel the difference between content that is made to help them and content that is made to corner them.
HomePride Bath’s story is a strong reminder that trust is not built by saying, “trust us.” It is built by consistently giving buyers reasons to trust what they are seeing, hearing, and learning from you.
For businesses wondering how to begin, the answer is not to make more content for the sake of it. The answer is to make better content. Start with the questions buyers ask every day. Answer them clearly. Use video wherever you can. Keep showing up with honesty.
Want help building that kind of trust with your own buyers? Talk to our team at IMPACT about creating a buyer-focused content and video strategy that helps you attract better-fit leads, improve sales conversations, and build confidence before the first call ever happens.
Connect with Coley
Coley McAvoy is the content manager at HomePride Bath with more than 30 years of experience in content marketing. He helps Colorado homeowners make smarter remodeling decisions by simplifying topics like design trends, pricing, and aging-in-place solutions. His work has appeared across multiple industry outlets, and he has been featured on CBS and Fox News.
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Mar 18, 2026
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